WHAT IS ‘YADIN YADIN’

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AND IS IT IMPORTANT FOR A RABBI TO  HAVE IN-ORDER TO JOIN A BEIS DIN AND NO LESS A BEIS DIN OF A LARGE COMMUNITY?

Types of Semicha:

The Talmud lists three classes of semicha issued:

Yoreh Yoreh:
The recipient of this semicha demonstrated sufficient education and proper judgment to be able to render halachic judgments on matters of religious law as it pertains to daily life such as kashrut, nidda, and permissible or forbidden activities on Shabbos or Yom Tov.

Yadin Yadin:
The recipient of this semicha demonstrated sufficient education and proper judgment to be able to render halachic judgments on matters of religious law as it pertains to monetary and property disputes.

Yatir Bechorot Yatir:
The recipient of this semicha demonstrated sufficient education and proper judgment to determine the ritual status of firstborn animals that have developed a blemish. This degree required extensive veterinary knowledge.

While the first two classes are still issued today, the last one is not.

Yadin Yadin in basically like doing internship.  The Rabbi to be sites at Din Torahs to watch and learn, every professional (Doctors and lawyers, judges to be etc…) does this and so should a Rov of a Beis Din.

The main and ONLY purpose of a Beis Din is to conduct Din Torahs between fellow Jews, everything else is secondary.

A robust and healthy legal system, administering justice fairly, creates a society worthy of G-d’s blessings. Establishing a system of judges, courts, and officials to maintain and enforce the law is a far-reaching responsibility. This precept translates the ideals of our personal life into a formal order for society at large. It is the extension and guarantee of all the preceding laws. (1 of the 7 Noahide Laws).

So yes my brothers and sisters, it is very important (a must) that a Rov of a Beis Din have the proper training and experience in ALL aspects of his expertise. Just as one would hire only an experience lawyer to fight a tough case or one would look for the best doctor to fight a tough illness (G-d spear us), so to one must look for only an experienced Rov to deal with matters of Din Torah which effect the entire community.

WIS would like to hear from you – use comments system to share your knowledge and opinion on the matter.

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10 Responses to “WHAT IS ‘YADIN YADIN’”

  1. Shoshanna Silcove Says:

    Yadin Yadin is beyond ordinary smicha, an advanced degree in smicha, so-to-speak. One who has it has passed much more rigorous exams and has the in greater in depth knowledge necessary to properly make judgments of cases as part of of a Beis Din. Any Beis Din considered reputable is composed of Rabbonim who hold yadin yadin.

  2. Please explain Says:

    you are missing the point rabbi broin didnt need smicha for him to become rov. it was all done so rabbi bagomilsky does not become elected its all about hendel trying to run lubavitch. thank g-d he is losing he may have won brown but the vaad talmidei hatmimim is doing a great job taking down aishel, i hope ch.info will report more on it. and soon hendel will be left with nothing!

  3. i think Says:

    Rabbi Osdaba and Rabbi Marlow also didnt have Dayonis when they became rabbonim and the rebbe said it was ok only rabbi heller had

    I have another problem he has NO SEMICHA from a chabad rov and his smicha he showed from zinner was done without a test on the phone as a favor…

  4. Anonymous Says:

    Not only does he not have Yodin Yodin, but his s’micha is a farce,A few Years ago when he became the head of the Machlokes group in Australia, they asked to see his s’micha which he did not have. So about five years ago when Rabbi Gavriel Zinner happened to be in Australia he approached him for a s’micha so out of rachmonos he gave him one without learning the basic requirements,
    Incidentally, the Rebbe requested that every bochur learn for and receive s’micha before he gets married. How is it that the great chossid Braun did not comply with the Rebbes wish??

  5. Crown Heights Says:

    Yosale barun
    is a long time resident of ch and he is the new rabbi

  6. john doe Says:

    This Yom kippur I guarentee that Rabbi Rosenberg will be mourning his mistake in ‘rushing in’ candidates to run for beis din of Crown Heights. In his mind, not understanding Crown Heightsers of course, he assumed that nobody would vote for a no name, nobody mushroom shliach from australia, who two weeks we wouldn’t give the time of day, (and now were told “We must learn to love and respect him”) over a well respected, knowledgeable, well off Rabbi who stepped in to help a torn community being destroyed from the inside by the likes of spritzer poltrac huebner speilman hendel, and their cronies etc.

  7. antimesira Says:

    “The main and ONLY purpose of a Beis Din is to conduct Din Torahs between fellow Jews, everything else is secondary.”

    I’ll repeat what WIS already wrote:

    Why are they [the mossrim] happy: They are not happy because now we will have a full functioning Beis Din. The Mosrim are not happy because now a Din Torah will be a Din Torah (al pi din). They are not happy that a Psak Din will be a Psak Din (al pi shulchan aruch). They are not happy that all three Rabonim wil have to get along.

    The Mosrim don’t care about all these things, in fact they despise these things, it is everything they are against. In fact it was all because of their efforts the last 30 years (and manly, stronger the last ten), that the Bais Din has been destroyed. It is they and only they who have made a total mockery of the Beis Din and the Rabonim in that Beis Din. It is they who killed Rabbi Marlow, it is they who tried to take out Rabbi Osdoba, it is they who brought Rabbi Schwei to fight Osdoba and it is they who bring us Rabbi Bruan to do G-d only knows what.

    So whats the surprise that they picked an inexperienced candidate?, this guy is perfect for them.

  8. ch resident Says:

    This information would have been appreiciated BEFORE the elections!!!

    Why wern’t we informed about this?

    How did the Crown Heights community vote in a guy they know nothing about?

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  10. Dave Says:

    Thank you for clarifying

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