It’s called RIGHT and WRONG,
It makes no difference how big the guys beard is and what his “holy” intentions might have been etc…
The above “psak” is one the foundations of all the craziness we witnessed the last 15 years.
How many of these “Yirei Shomayim, some of them very holy Jews” have come out publicly against any of the craziness, how many have taken any responsibility for causing Jews to go off the Way. How many are ready to take responsibility for simply ruining a generation of our children???
Korach Was also a “holy Jew”!
The spies (the Nissyim- “The Rebbe” of each tribe), were also “holy Jews”.
The Brother (12 tribes) were also “holy” when they throw their Brother Yosef down the pit.
Even, even Moshe Rabainu made a mistake!
The difference between the mistakes of these great Tzadikim is (that in must of the cases i mentioned), they took responsibility for their actions, they realized their wrong and tried to correct it, hey did Teshva.
By the way, You feel so bad for these “holy Jews”, what about our Holy Torah, what about our Holy Rebbe who has and continues to be shamed (spit on day by day) by these “holy” people every day?
The only problem you have with what I’m doing, is the fact that I’m talking about “YOUR holy Jews”. Otherwise you couldn’t careless.
Where have you been the last 15 years?
Those days of ‘mishichistim’/Liberals intimidating people with an opposition views by saying things like…
“how could you say such a thing” etc… Are over! You don’t get to make up the rules (of whats proper etc…).
Here I am, saying it loud and clear! Do you hear me now???
The text above, in the “psak Din” was taken from a shmira web site, a site justifying Mesira and promoting hate, in all it’s holiness.*
Why don’t you go first complain to them on the disgrace they making of G-ds holy Torah, then come here with your self righteousness and spill your heart out.
* if one wants to sin, eat pig, thats one thing, it’s another to make a blessing on that pig!
Do Mishichistim Really Believe what they say they believe or is it just politicts? If they really believe what they say they believe and any self respecting ‘honest’ mishichist should be doing what the mishichist in Ibiza [Spain] is doing. He’s actually doing what he believes. He does what he says should be done.
Glen Beck starts slow here and remains relatively restrained throughout, but his question near the end is a good one. If you believe Bush was responsible for mass murder of American civilians, why didn’t you flee the country or organize an armed revolt? How casual do you have to be about high treason to prioritize lefty crap like “green jobs” or lowering carbon emissions above seeking justice against the government for killing your countrymen? The answer, I suspect: Most Truthers may not really believe it. It’s a pseudo-intellectual pose, just like Jones’s fondness for communism is. At best, then, he’s a poseur idiot who didn’t have the good sense not to sign his name to a petition at 9/11 Truth. At worst, he’s an even bigger idiot who actually believes the “Loose Change” version of history. Either way, time to go.
Do you realize that the first draft of THIS VERY psak, was given to, and accepted by, the Rebbe! And spoken (highly) about in the subsequent Farbrengens!!!
Do you know this? Do you even care???
Or are you just too into your stereotypes and generalizations to pay any attention to the facts?
I’ve been following the Newsreal debate between Phyllis Chesler and Jamie Glazov on the one hand and Naomi Wolf, who thinks America, the most “liberated” country on the face of the earth by any — any — progressive standard (treatment of minorities, of women, of the poor, freedom of the individual), is a proto-fascist state and needs a revolution, while the Islamo-fascist enemy, the greatest oppressor of women and minorities ever, needs a wrist slap. Wolf’s moral blindness is just a one minor instance of the general moral vacuity of progressives which for a hundred years has put them on the side of the totalitarian enemies of freedom and inspired their assault against the West.
This led Moshe Ya’alon, Israel’s Minister of Strategic Affairs and former chief of Israel’s Defense Forces, to describe the left as a “virus.” Actually, as Aaron Shuster pointed out in an email which I am about to cite, one could also say the left is in the grips of a virus — a virus that attacks its brain cells and makes it incapable of ingesting real world facts and consequently of arriving at reasonable judgments.
Radical feminism is one form of the virus. It is an ideology grown out of Marxism whose enemy is the freedom of the individual from collective control, and the freedom of society from the totalitarian state. That is why radical feminists are incapable of seeing the anti-feminist monster in Islam: because Islam is now the center of the revolt against the feminists’ real enemy, which is us.
The progressive virus is a religious virus. Political radicalism is an expression of the inability of human beings to live without meaning; it is the replacement of the hope for a divine redemption in a redemption by political activists, which inevitably leads to a totalitarian state.
The consequences of infection by the virus are described in my email from Shuster, who quotes writer Mladen Andrijasevic:
“The virus totally blocks the person from the ability to access, let alone comprehend, any facts and evidence that contradict his or her beliefs. Mountains of data have zero effect on already established views, simply because the person flatly rejects considering reading anything that would go against their ‘truth’. The person is terrified to look beyond his established viewpoint. They behave like the Church at the times of Galileo. They refuse to look through the telescope. For instance, during the past eight years, on numerous occasions, I have recommended to my left-wing friends several books on Islam by Ibn Warraq, Ibn Ishaq, Robert Spencer and others. Many borrowed the books, but they were never read. The power of the virus was stronger. The results of my eight-year effort were meager. Two people have read Infidel by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.”
The strength of the virus derives from the meaning it supplies to meaningless lives, and the consequent good feelings — intoxicated feelings of virtue and self-righteousness — experienced by the devoted. Here Shuster quotes Melanie Phillips:
“A vital part of leftist thinking is the assumption that to be on the left is the only sensible/decent/principled position to hold and therefore cannot ever be wrong; and that is because to differ from the left is to be of ‘the right’, and the right is irredeemably evil. (The idea that to be opposed to the left is not necessarily to be on ‘the right’ or indeed to take any position other than to oppose ideology and its brutal effects is something that the left simply cannot get its head round). And so the true nightmare is that if ‘the right’ turns out to be actually right on anything and the left to be wrong, by accepting this fact the left-winger will by his own definition turn into an evil right-winger. His entire moral and political identity will crumble and he will grow horns and a tail. So to prevent any possibility of this catastrophe occurring, the opponent has to be eliminated.”
This why the only argument that leftists have in their public encounters with others is not an argument at all but an indictment: racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe. In the religion of leftists — in the fevered universe of the virus — the world is an endless plain of battle in which forces of Good (leftists) are ranged against the forces of Evil (the rest of us). At stake is the redemption of the world — or as the environmental totalitarians like to put it, the survival of the planet. No wonder they are deaf to any fact or argument that would bring them back to earth.
The only way to defeat the left — and I have failed in twenty years of arguing this to persuade conservatives — is to turn the table around and attack their moral self-image. Leftists are in fact the enemies and oppressors of women, children, gays, minorities and the poor, and conservatives should never confront them without reminding them of this fact. If Naomi Wolf and her radical friends had their way, America would be disarmed and radical Islam would be triumphant and women would be back in the Middle Ages, and the rest of us along with them.
“So in my view the best way to attack the left is to promote truth! Conservatives play the foil to the left so often- and seek to find common ground so frequently that they lose contact with the truth of their own cause.”
You miss the point that Leftism is a faith-based secular Religion. The “truth” is whatever supports their dogmatic belief system which derives from Nietschean Postmodernist relativism. You can confront a Lefty with irrefutable, fact-based, logically impeccable truth and it will be dismissed as a lie, or lies if it conflicts with that dogma. And you will be instantly hated for your evil “sin”. You will be hated because Lefty has invested his life in a fallacy and you have brought this to his attention. For Lefty to admit to any aspect of his worldview being in error is to knock down his whole house of cards. Leftism is an emotion-based, irrational, self-enobling quest for personal redemption using other peoples wealth and energy to remake the world into an impossible earthly Eden.
The more people who comprehend the true nature of the Leftist beast the more effectively it can be fought. The average GOP’er (e.g.; John McCain) is clueless. That has to change.
If I was a liberal in this day and age I would never take myself seriously. I mean just walk into 770 at all hours of the day and see for yourself. Sloppy looking young men who look like they haven’t changed or washed the pair of pants, and jacket with that stupid yellow pin attached to it, since the day they came off the plane from israel, who haven’t got a dollar to their name, just waiting around to jump on the next meal from any bris, kiddush, wedding etc. so they wont starve to death. Or say channina sperlin the mosser, who you’ll see walking out of 770 at 4 pm holding his tefillin in his hands, looking like the effects of the pills he took in the morning have started wearing off, who’ll hang out at the entrance for a few minutes trying to come up with an excuse to go back in.