YATUSH KODOMCHO

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Mr. Koch had this idea first with J.B.  Spielman
and that started the riots and as a sign from G-d,
Yankel Rosenbaum hy”d fell close to J.B. Spielmans house.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/23/nyregion/brooklyn-groups-agree-to-black-hasidic-patrol.html?sec=&spon=&&scp=2&sq=crownheights%20patrol&st=cse

BROOKLYN GROUPS AGREE TO BLACK-HASIDIC PATROL
By TODD S. PURDUM
Published: Saturday, May 23, 1987

Ending years of disagreement over an all-white neighborhood security patrol run by a Hasidic sect, members of the black and Jewish communities in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn have agreed to start a new integrated patrol, they announced yesterday.

The decision by the Crown Heights Jewish Community Council to end its all-white patrol came after many meetings between community groups and city and police officials, and six weeks after a march through the neighborhood by about 400 blacks protesting the patrol.

”For the betterment of all inhabitants of the community, cooperation between both groups is the most desired thing,” said Rabbi J. B. Spielman, chairman of the council, after a 50-minute meeting with Mayor Koch and Police Commissioner Benjamin Ward at City Hall yesterday.

”As the saying goes, from the bitter comes sometimes the sweet,” Rabbi Spielman said. ”I would hope that even though there might be a couple of negative events in the next couple of months, that from this would come open and complete cooperation.” Segregated Patrol Stops Blacks

Many black people in the neighborhood have complained that the segregated patrols stopped blacks walking on the street and asked them for identification. Mayor Koch warned the Hasidim several weeks ago that such tactics were illegal and would not be tolerated, and Commissioner Ward said yesterday that the patrol had not been operating ”for the past couple of weeks.”

The new patrol, which is to operate under the auspices of the 71st Precinct and is to include a telephone hotline at the stationhouse on Empire Boulevard to report incidents, will begin as soon as details have been worked out, the leaders said.

A meeting is scheduled for Wednesday with representatives of the two groups and top police officials to discuss recruitment and training for the patrols.

The Rev. Heron Sam, rector of St. Mark’s Episcopal Church, who represented the black community at yesterday’s meeting, said: ”I hope the joint patrol will be successful. We’d like to work for the success of it.” Koch Links Assaults to Blacks

But, Mr. Sam said: ”There’s got to be an end to any kind of partisan patrols that exist in that community if there’s going to be a joint patrol. That is part of the agreement. If that is held, I think we have a chance of success.”

Mr. Koch drew loud protests in a visit to St. Mark’s two weeks ago, when he told a mostly black crowd that most crime in the neighborhood was committed by blacks. ”If you’re a Lubavitcher sect member, Jewish, it’s hardly likely that you’re going to be assaulted by a white in this community,” he said. ”If you’re black, and you’re living in this community, it’s hardly likely that you’re going to be assaulted by a white Lubavitcher.”

But Rabbi Spielman credited the Mayor yesterday with helping to resolve differences between the groups. Commissioner Ward said the two sides were between ”80 percent and 90 percent” in agreement before yesterday’s meeting, and that ”it took the Mayor and an hour to bring everybody together.”

Mr. Koch, speaking to reporters in his office, said, ”It was a very frank meeting,” adding, ”I don’t want to tell you it was kissy-huggy, but there was no animosity.” More Foot Patrol by Officers

City officials said the Lubavitch group had agreed about 10 days ago to join an integrated patrol, but until the meeting yesterday had not said explicitly that it would abandon its all-white patrol. The officials said Mr. Sam had made it clear that ending the all-white patrol would have to be part of any agreement.

Mr. Ward said it was hoped that the new patrol would include members of an integrated neighborhood watch program that has already been operating under the supervision of the 71st Precinct’s community relations officer. He said that group has about 50 active members and would be subsumed in the new patrol.

In addition, Mr. Ward said he had decided to introduce a Community Patrol Officer Program, which would put officers back on foot patrol in the neighborhood, in the precinct as soon as possible. The three-year-old program is operating in 44 of the city’s 75 precincts and is to be expanded citywide within the next 18 months.

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2 Responses to “YATUSH KODOMCHO”

  1. antmesira -History Repeated Says:

    We all know where this is going!

    Why do we have to make the same mistakes over and over and over nd over again?!!!!!!!

    How long will it take for the black community to start complaining (and rightfully so) that the Jews (side of the patrol) are taking control over the COP/chsp-SHMIRA cars (and in general the patrol as a whole)?

    I”’ be dammed if it’s not happening already!

    I’m no prophet and I’m not going to pretend to be, but smart I am; from history i have learned; experience has thought me a few things…

    Embrace yourselves, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!

    Thank you Shomrim for sticking it out for the Jewish community,
    I hope your prepared for what coming.

  2. History Repeated Says:

    Same As history tells

    Published: Wednesday, August 25, 1993

    Dinkins, in Testimony, Defends His Response on Crown Heights
    THE MAYOR’S DEPOSITION

    Dinkins and Crown Heights

    Q. You recognized by 2 A.M., when you left the precinct, that there were attacks against Jewish people because they were Jewish people at that time; isn’t that correct, sir?

    A. I don’t know whether at that time, that we knew there were attacks against Jewish people because they were Jewish people. I’m not clear that we knew that at 2 A.M. on Monday. I’m not so sure that we knew that then. When the Mayor realized that the attacks were against Jews. Q. By Tuesday morning, did you understand that the Jews of Crown Heights were being subjected to violence because they were Jewish? (pause.)

    A. There certainly came a time when this whole episode was over that it was clear that Jews had been put upon because they were Jewish. Whether or not that was abundantly clear on early Tuesday morning is not crystal clear to me. In retrospect, that certainly was the case. On Violence in New York City.

    Q. Mr. Dinkins, I’m in no way, in no way, attempting to reflect upon your stewardship or anything other than to say that the city has its share, whatever that is, of violence, and violence is something that occurs frequently within New York City; isn’t that correct?

    A. I think that’s quite a comment. You don’t intend to reflect on my stewardship.

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