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“where are all the comments from all those people that are “not for shomrim and not for shmira” or the people that “have friends on both sides but….” WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOR RIGHT? is Halacha against Messira just something for the classroom? something the rabbi’s put in textbooks to amuse us? how come i do not see anybody write i am not for either side, BUT THIS IS WRONG!”

john doe

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11 Responses to “Quote of the day:”

  1. john doe Says:

    TIME AND PERSISTENCE….

    These days you don’t need to be a thug with big muscles to intimidate your enemies, you don’t need to be a thug with many thugs under your control to intimidate your rivals, you don’t even have to talk to or even look at someone ‘you just want to get’.

    A few months back at two big burly detectives wearing bulletproof vests showed up at a residents home about 11pm and questioned the resident about something extremely trivial, after about a half hour in which the resident answered questions the detectives left. The next day the residents son called the detectives and asked them how they can show up at someones house at 11pm for something so stupid, they answered that the complainant was in the precinct every day for weeks, called them three times a day and in order to APPEASE the complainant to get him off their backs they paid the man a visit. Intimidation 101.

    When the shomrim members were attacked by the missianist at 749 and to throw icing on the cake had a vicious messira orchestrated against them by paul the mosser hubener ym’s who’s name is on every police document named as a witness, lawyer, and translator, arresting detective wannabe Duffy stated that it was all political pressure, who ever heard of a political arrest in the united states of America? who was this pressure from? where and how do we get answers? how can the police let themselves be used in this way? when members of shomrim heard that charges were being filed against them they wanted to go to the pricint to explain the events the way it really happened (bringing witnesses etc.) they were told that any shomrim member who even walks into the 77th precinct will get arrested.

    Times have changed and people have changed with it, learning to use the “justice” system to their advantage. All it takes is time and persistence.

  2. JUDAH MACABEE Says:

    the next holyday in the jewish calender is HANUKA the miracle of rabim byad meatim .

    An army consisting of more than 40,000 men swept the land under the leadership of two commanders, Nicanor and Gorgiash. When Judah and his brothers heard of that, they exclaimed: “Let us fight unto death in defense of our souls and our Temple!” The people assembled in Mitzpah, where Samuel, the prophet of old, had offered prayers to G-d. After a series of battles the war was won.

    shomrim will win but the moser huebner YM”S god will take .

  3. Berke Says:

    To JUDAH MACABEE
    So basically you’re admitting to the ‘five to one ratio’ that exists between Shmira and Shomrim.

  4. CHER Says:

    Berke Says:
    “So basically you’re admitting to the ‘five to one ratio’ that exists between Shmira and Shomrim.”

    And what difference would that make?
    Who cares how many people are in shmira, nobody ever refuted that claim. WHY?
    1. because it does not really matter.
    2. its as clear as the eye can see how many they really have.
    3. It’s not about quantity its about quality.
    Taking in every Tom, dick and Harry is no Chochma, this work is a big responsibility. The reason I would TRUST a Shomrim member more is because I know that he had to go throw a hard proses to join. I know that when I call them the RIGHT person will come help me out with what ever issue/problem (whether it be crime or other) I am having.

    Must of all WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO GO OFF SUBJECT?
    THE SUBJECT HERE IS MESIRA!

  5. Berke Says:

    CHER said: “And what difference would that make?
    Who cares how many people are in shmira, nobody ever refuted that claim”
    Then he said: “2. its as clear as the eye can see how many they really have”
    Do you see a contradiction, or is it just me?

    Another thing he said: “It’s not about quantity its about quality”
    I actually got a good look at those Shomrim guys, all i can say is: Scum of the earth!!! (every dropout, etc…)

    Then last but not least, he ends off: “WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO GO OFF SUBJECT? THE SUBJECT HERE IS MESIRA”
    That’s precisely why i mentioned Shomrim, who i saw with my own eyes Masering, on the night of the Kinus Hashluchim two years ago!

    (I would be really surprised if this comment id posted)

  6. CHER Says:

    That’s precisely why i mentioned Shomrim, who i saw with my own eyes Masering, on the night of the Kinus Hashluchim two years ago!

    Surly theres police report with shomrim members names on them, Why don’t you get them and sher them with the rest of us so we can all see the truth.
    Since you say that shomrim Massered there must have been a court case and trail, what happened with that case, did the witness (the mosier) come to testify, if so you should have his or their names on court documents.
    Show us please, don’t just make blank useless statements (like the ones you made trying in your stupid way to out smart me).
    I’ll take you with half my brain behind my head.

  7. john doe Says:

    “when a Jew picks up the phone to masser another Jew his hand shakes and his mind does not let him form the words of messira, who are all these so called “Jews” who’s hands do not shake and minds do not falter that can masser and eat breakfast at the same time, are they Jewish?”

  8. hypocrisy Says:

    A question to those that do Mesira:

    If your Mesira is some what successful and you locked up another Jew and have him/them go through the court system, do you acutely sleep better at night? [knowing you locked up a fellow Jew].
    How far are you ready to go with your Mesira?

    These are real questions and id like a real answer

  9. Berke Says:

    CHER Said: “Surly theres police report with shomrim members names on them, Why don’t you get them and sher them with the rest of us so we can all see the truth”
    So i guess that until WIS Finally produced one document you didn’t believe any of their story’s, right?

    Then he said: “Since you say that shomrim Massered there must have been a court case and trail, what happened with that case, did the witness (the mosier) come to testify, if so you should have his or their names on court documents”
    I guess the case was thrown out before it started (probably do to the vast evidence (photo’s, video’s…)to the contrary).
    Oh, and btw, where did you say half your brain was?

  10. person Says:

    To Berke: I actually dont admit to the five to one ratio. I do not believe for one second that shmira messira has 100 volunteers. what I wanna know is how many active radio carrying units do they have on a daily basis? meanwhile shomrim never proclaimed to have a 100 units, neither is that the goal. The goal is, to have hard working dedicated volunteers, who will be there to help the community, and thats exactly what shomrim dooes, and to date shomrim always answered the bell, and I”yh that will continue untill the coming of moshiach! because shomrim is never ” off duty”!

  11. CHER Says:

    Berke wrote:
    “I guess the case was thrown out before it started (probably do to the vast evidence (photo’s, video’s…)to the contrary).”

    so were are the documentations, did they swede them once the case was over. There should be transcripts of the testimony.

    The truth is I’m waisting my time with you, you obviously don’t know anything about how the court system works.

    The only mossrim here are the shmira mesira and mishichistim terroristim.
    And there is documentation to proof it (I’m sure once the case is over…)

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